Sword/Shield or Wand/Focus?...or Staff? - Page 3 - Guild Wars Forums

Pyro maniac · Mar 14, 2008, 02:12 PM // 14:12

PBAoE are bad

40/40 or 40/20/20% are good

JR · Mar 14, 2008, 02:15 PM // 14:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bohya

Sorry if this has already been asked, I don't know to check if there are similar threads to this.

I am currently playing as a fire elemenetalist and I don't know what would be most useful to me; Wand, Sword or Staff? What stats should I go with on the items aswell?

Some people call me a noob because I don't have a caster weapon or shield and I got to admit that they usualy look nicer than a staff or wand, but I feel that a staff and a wand would have better mods for my build. Can someone reccomend to me what I should wield?

16+1+3 fire magic
12+1 energy storage

Fireball
Tenai's Heat
Searing Heat
Savannah Heat
Arcane Echo
Meteor Shower
Glyph of Sacrifice
Fire Attunement

I amn't asking for you to rate the build. I am just showing you the skills I normally use so that you can tell me what the right equipment would be for it.

If you want a single set that will work well with this build get a Fire Magic staff with 20% longer enchantment duration (for your attunement) and two 20% chance faster cast time mods. Faster recharge isn't going to benefit you much with the energy load it already takes to use this bar, but cast time definately will.

The Way Out · Mar 14, 2008, 02:25 PM // 14:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fried Tech

dude. you say it isnt a contest for you but you keep saying how your right. your more informative, and you keep +1 when I am only trying to get a point across

My point the entire time was that in certain situations the 40/40 set is not the best. For the build that the OP posted, yes it is tops. For any sort of up close build it is not tops. If you are casting melee range skills why would you want to be out of agro? You keep saying a solo build. How is my example : shockwave, aftershock, etc. a solo build? No where in there did I mention stonestriker or obi flesh., or any defensive skill. You took my example and turned it into the cookie cutter solo build that you thought it should be. Another example where melee sets would be better is anytime you are using ursan blessing.

Finally, before you start with the, "your condasending, and just want to feel like you have a big e-peen" bull, remember that 90% of everything is relative. Do you think everyone is out to get you? Do you have self esteem issues? Do you want people to come and look at your post for some /applause, Mr. Muscle Avatar?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bohya

Sorry if this has already been asked, I don't know to check if there are similar threads to this.

I am currently playing as a fire elemenetalist and I don't know what would be most useful to me; Wand, Sword or Staff? What stats should I go with on the items aswell?

Some people call me a noob because I don't have a caster weapon or shield and I got to admit that they usualy look nicer than a staff or wand, but I feel that a staff and a wand would have better mods for my build. Can someone reccomend to me what I should wield?

16+1+3 fire magic
12+1 energy storage

Fireball
Tenai's Heat
Searing Heat
Savannah Heat
Arcane Echo
Meteor Shower
Glyph of Sacrifice
Fire Attunement

I amn't asking for you to rate the build. I am just showing you the skills I normally use so that you can tell me what the right equipment would be for it.

There is the OP asking about what he should use for that build. Who answered him correctly?

Who jumped into the thread and gave their 2 cents hinting that I go a try this close ranged ele build and come back and report on what is more convienient? The OP didn't ask any of that. That sounded a bit funny to me, so I let you know about it. I then explained that a caster sword and shield would help with the build you are describing, yet you fail to see that. I call you names because you deserve it. You are carrying on with your own agenda. I was attempting to help the OP with the correct information. An Ele with that build wants to be able to reduce his casting and recharge times, not buff his health, numbnuts.

In the end, I am glad JR came in and added a bit of sense to this thread. I trust his opinions a lot more than people seeking attention or necroing threads.

What Elite do you use when you use the aftershock build? Could it be ObiFlesh? Could this be a terra tank variant build? Hmm??? I wonder... is that also a solo build? Or maybe you run odd builds that don't require you to buff your armor in order to get close, hold aggro, and utilize aftershock and shockwave. Eles are squishy unless they plan not to be. Using close ranged spells are a call for a buff or some sort of protections.

Fried Tech · Mar 14, 2008, 02:54 PM // 14:54

@ the way out

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fried Tech

a 40/40 set is very helpful, but some builds work better with a different weapon set.

I play ele as my main character and I always have a 40/40 set, melee set with health and +20% to enchants, and a High energy staff with +15energy -1 regen, and a longbow for pulling but you probly wont have to worry about that right now.

Maybe you should have read my first post. I agreed that the 40/40 set was good, and then let him know what i carry on my ele for when a different build may require something different. Then here is your post:

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Way Out

Nothing compares to a wand/sceptre and focus on a caster.

Caster Sword and Shield are for looks only...

Thats when i jumped in and gave my 2 cent to YOU. See I actually answered the question and gave some advice for later. BEFORE you even got here. So don't try that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Way Out

I call you names because you deserve it

Now THAT is a good argument.......

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Way Out

An Ele with that build wants to be able to reduce his casting and recharge times, not buff his health, numbnuts.

Im pretty sure I stated a few times that the reason for the melee weapons wasn't for health or energy, but for convenience of attacking with a close ele build.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Way Out

What Elite do you use when you use the aftershock build? Could it be ObiFlesh? Could this be a terra tank variant build? Hmm??? I wonder... .

Keep on wondering because the build I was describing was actually a build I used in HB when it first came out. I was tired of seeing all the invinci ele's runnning around and not doing damage. So, I made a build that was (mystic regen, shockwave,aftershock,obi flame, earthquake, stoneflesh, earth att, flame djinns haste). It worked for 2 weeks until the major players started HB. PvP is not really my thing.

You keep coming in here and acting like I am trying to "necro" this post. The only one here throwing around insults and trying to make it all about them is YOU

The Way Out · Mar 14, 2008, 03:20 PM // 15:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fried Tech

You keep coming in here and acting like I am trying to "necro" this post. The only one here throwing around insults and trying to make it all about them is YOU

I did read your first post. You told the OP not to listen to The Kurzick Eater, you actually said "don't listen to this guy..."

I didn't even respond to that. I agreed with Katsumi and you jumped in and quoted me. Stop playing like you are totally oblivious to the fact that you necroed the post.

When HB first started??? That was around the time Jesus was born... in terms of guildwars. That makes your example even more useless and self-centered.

Caster Sword and Shield are for looks...

Better requirements can be met with a 40/40 or staff.

Don't ignore the fact that I just showed your dumb ass the OP's first post and how you deterred the thread to a damn ele build that was used when mammoths walked the earth. He doesn't care about a close ranged ele build. He had a build that would be best used with a 40/40 or jacked up staff. Not a caster sword that would cramp his casting and recharge times.

I am going over a large portion of your "other" posts and see how much of a necrotic douchebag you are. I have posted time and time again on here offering my help ig... giving out one of my accounts ig names to help people through missions or to give them builds. Seems to me like you have a habit of jumping in, stealing the thread, and masking your actions as though you are helping.

You are misguiding a fire nuker by giving him an example of a close earth ele build that you used forth five years ago. Stop talking. You are digging yourself into your own nonsense. How does it feel to be slow? Be helpful and don't deter from the fact that the OP asked for what was best for his build. When I come into a thread. I focus on that, until numbnuts like you jump in with their "e-peen" (sorry I had to borrow your "in-crowd" word). I enjoy calling you names. You really do deserve it. When you are not helpful and continue with your moronic replies to me, I call you nub, numbnuts, and retarded. All of which you continue to prove.

I also like giving people entertainment and think it is funny every time you post. +1 until you stop

Stormlord Alex · Mar 14, 2008, 03:44 PM // 15:44

20/20s are good.
Or listen to JR. He's generally right about things

Kamatsu · Mar 15, 2008, 06:17 AM // 06:17

+1 post's are only good if they don't get deleted.

Please keep to the topic, or if you can't - take it to PM's rather than spamming on the boards with your arguments/accusations/trolling/etc.

The Way Out · Mar 17, 2008, 01:00 PM // 13:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by kamatsu

+1 post's are only good if they don't get deleted.

Please keep to the topic, or if you can't - take it to PM's rather than spamming on the boards with your arguments/accusations/trolling/etc.

In that case, I should have God Of Spammers at this point. -1

Fried Tech · Mar 17, 2008, 01:18 PM // 13:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Way Out

In that case, I should have God Of Spammers at this point. -1

And I would be "God Walking Among Spammers" -1

The Way Out · Mar 17, 2008, 01:20 PM // 13:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fried Tech

And I would be "God Walking Among Spammers" -1

I would like to be "God Stalking Spammers"

Fried Tech · Mar 17, 2008, 02:01 PM // 14:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Way Out

I would like to be "God Stalking Spammers"

I thought I heard something in the bushes....

MagmaRed · Mar 17, 2008, 02:32 PM // 14:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by JR

If you want a single set that will work well with this build get a Fire Magic staff with 20% longer enchantment duration (for your attunement) and two 20% chance faster cast time mods. Faster recharge isn't going to benefit you much with the energy load it already takes to use this bar, but cast time definately will.

20% enchant bonus is only useful for Earth Eles using armor buffs, etc. Attunements last longer than the recharge, and with the long duration, an increase isn't needed for enegry management, as they are only 10 energy anyway.

PvE, use a staff or wand+focus. If you want to run a build relying on enchantments (Terra Tank, for example), use a sword/axe instead of a wand, and give it +5 energy and 20% enchants. More useful mods for an Ele would be +30 health, +45 health while enchanted, +1 attribute, or 5/7 armor. A Fire Ele doesn't really need the enchant bonus.

For PvP, it would depend a lot on your build, but a shield is a good option, but you'd want several with various mods. +10 armor against multiple damage types work, but if you go with a Stone Striker build, you could use just the +10 v Earth. Based on your build, I don't think you are talking PvP though. People who tell you to use a sword/axe+shield in PvE don't understand the difference between PvP and PvE.

Mar 15, 2008, 06:17 AM // 06:17	#47
Kamatsu Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Australia	+1 post's are only good if they don't get deleted. Please keep to the topic, or if you can't - take it to PM's rather than spamming on the boards with your arguments/accusations/trolling/etc. __________________ Have a moderation related issue or just want to chat? Send me a PM

Mar 14, 2008, 02:12 PM // 14:12	#41
Pyro maniac Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2006	PBAoE are bad 40/40 or 40/20/20% are good

Mar 14, 2008, 03:44 PM // 15:44	#46
Stormlord Alex Grotto Attendant Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island Guild: Soul of Melandru [sOm] Profession: W/E	20/20s are good. Or listen to JR. He's generally right about things